Edition 798 - October 18, 2019
by Professional Trader Andy Jordan
Educator for Spreads, Options, Swing, Day Trading, and
Editor of Traders Notebook Complete
Traders Notebook: How to Read a P&L Chart
Today I want to have a look at the P&L chart of all spread trade recommendation in Traders Notebook since January 2019 and I would like to discuss a few things a trader should always check to see if a trading method or a specific way of trading make sense to him or her. As we can see on the (hypothetical) P&L chart from below, the profit reached almost $15k But what does “$15k” mean? What was the risk? What about the draw-downs? Were there enough trades to see the results are statistically significant?
Let’s go through it, step-by-step:
A result of about $15k is kind of meaningless, as long as we don’t know how much money we need so we can get to this result. This is usually the point, where a good marketing specialist will look up how much margin was used to cover the trades and then he will probably tell you the following: “You could have reached that result with an account size of about $15k, Andy. As you can see, this means a return of about 100%! Isn’t that awesome?” But wait a minute. After the trades are done, it is always easy to calculate the optimized values to present huge profits. But what would have happened if there were more losing trades in a row? Well, easy answer: You would have been out of business! So, let’s have a look at the chart by ourselves and forget about the marketing guy. As we can see, the largest draw-down happened around trade 31 of about $5k. Is there a way we can have a few of these draw-downs in a row? Yes, of course. To be on the save side, we better look at the largest draw-down and we multiply this value a couple of times so we can resist even larger draw-down periods. How often we multiply the draw-down is of course up to each trader, but I would use at least 3 to 4 times the largest draw-down ($15k - $20k). Therefore, an account size of about $30k to $40k or even better $50k make much more sense to reach these results. And if we use for example an account size of $50k for our calculation, our profit is down to about 30%, which is by the way still pretty good in the world of “real trading” and not “marketing trading”.
Of course, you can take the trades also with a smaller account, let’s say with only $25k, but then you should also reduce your profit expectation, just to be not too disappointed after one year of trading. Especially beginning traders get disappointed when they make “only” 20% or 30% a year because they have statements like “I made 1 million out of $10,000 in just one year” in mind. But I can tell you, using good risk and money management parameters, these statements are all bogus.
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Chart Scan with Commentary: ATR
Mr. Joe! I heard that you have an eBook about stop placement. Would you be willing to tell us at least one of the techniques you have in the book?
No, I cannot do that, it wouldn’t be fair to those who have purchased the eBook. However, since you asked for something, I am wilfing to offer you a strategy that uses one of the tools from the eBook—that tool is Average True Range (ATR).
For purposes of this article I will use Wilder’s ATR, which is pretty standard in most software. There is a lot of information as to how ATR is calculated available for free on the Internet, so I’m not going to go into that.
Typically, ATR is created with a 14 bar moving average of volatility. My use for ATR in this particular strategy is to use a 10 bar moving average of volatility—or more simply a 10 bar setting for Wilder’s ATR.
The strategy can be used in any time frame within which you want to make a short-term trade. This means anywhere from a few minutes to a few days, or even a few weeks.
Most of the explanation for the strategy can be seen on the chart below:
Step1: Calculate the Stop Loss—Stop loss = Entry price minus 2 times the ATR
Step 2: Calculate the Profit Target—Profit Target plus 4 times the ATR
It’s all there on the chart. The following chart shows the result. Make sure you take the ATR reading from the day prior to entry.
Notice the drop in ATR at the time of the profit taking exit. Obviously, volatility has dropped and now reads 0.9857.
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